overcast #016b
Part 2 of 2 of an extended conversation with Hugh Hancock and Johnnie Ingram. We discuss MovieStorm, the challenge of defining the term “machinima,” the Academy of Machinima Arts & Sciences (AMAS), copyright challenges… and, of course, the fact that Linux people prefer Aerosmith. Featuring music from the BloodSpell motion picture soundtrack.
Thanks for listening! Let me know what you think.
This Week’s Hot List (URLs from the show’s content):
Music: “Foyer of the Demoncaller” by Overman- Sound Clip: BloodSpell Episode 4
- MovieStorm
- Short Fuze: Matt Kelland, David Bailey, Dave Lloyd
- Tom Jantol / Cirque du Machinima
- The “What is machinima?” discussions
- Machinima Film Festival
- Wikipedia: Bill Hicks
- Softimage
- AnyMation
- Series: Afterworld
- Film: Inside the Machinima
- Film: Machinima! With Officer Dan
- Peter Rasmussen / Stolen Life / Nanoflix blog
- AMAS
- Wikipedia: EULA
- Copyright Law: Derivative Works, Fair Use, and The Copyfight
- Kevin Smith - Credit Cards to Finance Indie Films
- Music: “Rust” by Modo
- Book: Olympos by Dan Simmons
- Book: The Time Traveler’s Wife by Audrey Niffenegger
- Art and Gatekeepers
- Wikipedia: E-Book
- Book: Execution Channel by Ken Macleod
- Book: Forest Mage by Robin Hobb
- Book: Freakonomics
- Book: As Used on the Famous Nelson Mandela by Mark Thomas
- Machinima Premiere
- Last.FM
- Overcast #014 (April Fools)
- Pirates of the Caribbean soundtrack
- Purcell’s Dido & Aeneas
- Scissor Sisters
- Green Day
- Jason Webley - Tour Schedule
- The Levellers
- Music: “Raindrops Keep Falling on the Dead” by Flipron

Comment by Tom — May 1, 2007 at 1:22 am
Phil, like always, great show. And I think it is about time to make show about you - for example you can invite gToon to make one show where he is host and you guest.
Ricky, do you read this?
About “…Machinima is just a tool…” statement, I couldn’t agree more. Nobody from “outside” care about Machinima - when they care, they care about movie, not the tool - and this is the audience I care for my movies.
But what shocked grumpy old naive me, is fact that large part of Machinima community don’t care much for non game movies either.
It is OK after all, Machinima is wonderful tool and if its popularity depends of games, so be it. Movie making is not about community, it is about stories and - what a thought - about movies.
What I found wonderful in Machinima is real-time part and that part definitely need term as “Anymation” because it is generous and it don’t require… marriage or some twisted version of Stockholm syndrome.
So, my next Circus movie will not be Cirque du Machinima. First one is invited for some festivals and I don’t know is it wise to change title right now, but second will definitely be Circus of Anymation.
I bought anymation.org domain but it seems that I cant find time to build proper site - not everybody have hidden army like Phil - so if somebody with time and knowledge find concept of Anymation worth dealing with, please contact me. Maybe it is time for first Machinima spin off.
Comment by Kate — May 1, 2007 at 3:21 am
Enjoyed the interview guys. I am amazed at how much H&J pack into their lives..and how coherent they managed to be after a late night and the hospitality of Short Fuze.
Comment by Hugh "Nomad" Hancock — May 1, 2007 at 5:46 am
One quick note as I’m listening - we actually mentioned 3 people at Short Fuze:
- Matt Kelland, Creative Director (I think)
- Dave Lloyd, CTO/Lead Programmer
- David Bailey, CEO.
Comment by Johnnie Ingram — May 1, 2007 at 5:59 am
Tom said “I think it is about time to make show about you - for example you can invite gToon to make one show where he is host and you guest.”
Seconded. Let’s make this happen. We’ll have to tie Phil down and force him to do it. He hates talking about himself, or having any attention thrust on him whatsoever.
If anybody’s interested, I’ve created a last.fm group for Machinima makers and fans. Go join, at
http://www.last.fm/group/Machinima
Comment by CJ — May 1, 2007 at 2:03 pm
Great show guys. I wanted to listen to them both back-to-back, and am glad I did. Loved your “law” advice Hugh.
“Steven Tyler compiling his Kernel”
BWAHAHAHA. Best line ever.
Very entertaining show!
Comment by gToon — May 2, 2007 at 1:02 am
Sounds like a good idea to me. Hell, I’d shine up the mic and bring the coffee for Phil.
Tied up tonight, but I’ll give the show a listen tomorrow. Looking forward to it.